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Oct. 1, 2024
Transform Your Studio Setup with Modular Podcast Tables by Jason Villanueva
Have you ever considered how podcast furniture can elevate your podcasting setup? If not, you’re in for an enlightening episode!
Today, we are joined by Jason Villanueva, owner of Podcast Tables, who provides innovative solutions for podcasters through high-quality, modular podcast furniture.
Jason Villanueva, an experienced podcaster himself, started Podcast Tables to address the furniture needs specific to podcasting studios. His experience in podcasting since 2017 has fueled the evolution of his business to provide durable, functional, and aesthetically pleasing tables for podcast studios.
In this episode, we dive into how Jason transitioned from a podcaster to a business owner, the high-quality materials and customization options available for Podcast Tables, and the behind-the-scenes process that ensures each table meets the needs of podcasters.
If you're aiming to create a professional podcast studio environment, this episode is a must-listen. Jason's insights on podcasting setups and the importance of quality furniture will guide you in making effective decisions for your podcast's appearance and functionality.
Join us on this exciting journey and get inspired by Jason’s innovative approach.
IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:
- How it all began: Jason shares how he moved from running a podcast to creating custom tables specifically designed for podcasters, and the moments that inspired this transition.
- The flagship products: Learn about the Real Wood Modular Style Podcasting Table and its key features, including the choice of high-quality wood like oak, Hevea, and walnut.
- Innovations and improvements: Jason discusses the journey of improving product design for easier assembly, highlighting the importance of feedback from users and the integration of new tools like CNC machinery.
- Customization and modularity: We explore how Podcast Tables can be tailored to fit different needs, such as size adjustments for larger spaces or adding specific features like flush-mounted boom arms.
- Tech wish list: Jason expresses his desire for simpler mobile podcast solutions that eliminate the complexity of multiple connectors and dongles.
Links and resources mentioned in this episode:
- Podcast Tables
- Program Audio Series
- Elgato Low Profile Boom Arm:
- Follow Jason on social media:
- Twitter:
- @podcasttables
- Instagram:
- @podcasttables
Recommended hardware:
Recommended software:
- Riverside virtual interview platform -
- http://www.riverside.fm/?via=mathew
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EQUIPMENT IN USE:
- Rodecaster Pro 1st Gen (No longer available). Consider the Rodecaster Duo or Rodecaster Pro II
- EV RE20 with 309a Shockmount
- Rode PSA1+
- iPhone continuity camera but previously the Logitech Brio 4k
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Transcript
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Welcome to Podcasting Tech, a podcast that equips busy
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entrepreneurs engaged in podcasting with proven and cost effective
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solutions for achieving a professional sound and appearance.
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I'm Matthew Passi, your host and a 15 year veteran in the podcasting
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space. We'll help you cut through the noise and offer guidance on software and
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hardware that can elevate the quality of your show. Tune in weekly
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for insightful interviews with tech creators, behind the scenes studio tours, and
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strategies for podcasting success. Head to podcasting tech dot
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com to subscribe to this show on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform
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and join us on this exciting journey to unlock the full potential of your
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podcast. It is not often when you talk
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about podcasting and services and companies that are assisting that you were talking about
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something that's not a microphone, a mixer, or a piece of
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software. No. Today, we are talking about podcast
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furniture. Like what? Yes. Podcast furniture, very
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specifically, podcast tables. We have Jason
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Villanueva. He is the owner of podcast tables. You can find
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them at podcast tables dot shop, and they
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build this table system specifically
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designed for podcasters to give them great looking sets,
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easy cable management, something that's gonna look really nice. And I could
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say that because we have actually used them so excited to talk to Jason
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about this, how it got started and maybe what plans they have for the future.
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Jason, thank you for joining us today. Yeah. Thank you so much for reaching out
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and, and having me today. Oh, it's it's our pleasure. So
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were you into podcasting and that led to the
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tables? Are you into furniture? And you're like, oh, I see a gap. Like, how
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did you go from whatever it was you were doing into, I'm gonna be the
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podcast tables guy. Yeah. How about that? So I was actually
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in podcasting in 2017. We started a faith based
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podcast, and we had a studio down in the basement at our
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facility. And, we just built that
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out and evolved with this scenario. So it
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started off as audio only. Eventually, we introduced video
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with introducing video. Now you've got camera angles
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and that kind of stuff. And so started with a square
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table, then we moved to a oval conference
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table, really just trying to adjust people around the space to get the
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good shots and the good angles. But we ran into the issue
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where sometimes we'll have 2 people, 3 people, 4 people.
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And so I thought, man, I really need a table
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that I can add and subtract pieces if needed,
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and I need something that is gonna create this half moon scenario,
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kinda like a news desk or a sports desk, ESPN, CNN, whatever
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however you wanna put it. Got all the guys at the table and, just
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better for camera angles, better for layout, better for spacing. And
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then eventually thinking, you know, I need a hole here for a cable.
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I need some cable clips, need some wire management, you know, etcetera,
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etcetera. So it started off essentially solving a problem
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for myself in our studio, and then it's just evolved over time.
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That's pretty cool. So what are the
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the the basic, you know, offerings that you have right now? Because I see
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you're unveiling some new ones, maybe changing out some colors. But if I were to
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go to podcast tables, your dot shop, what is it that I would
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expect to find? You know, what's the the kind of flagship product that we're looking
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at? Yeah. So the flagship product is our Real
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Wood modular style podcasting table. So, no, that's
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a mouthful, but I want people to know that it's real furniture. It's solid
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wood. We have, oak, Hevea. We've got
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walnut. And so this is furniture that's
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gonna last a long time. It's I I hate to say it's not
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IKEA because I love IKEA. I was in IKEA in
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Houston, and then a week later, I was in IKEA in Kansas City because we
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just you know, I've got some ideas. We're going down with family and that kind
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of stuff. So I love IKEA, but it's not IKEA. It's not a hollow core.
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You know, it's built to last, and it it'll last for a long
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time. So Real Wood modular style podcast table. We call it
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modular because it comes in sections. And so if you have 3 people on
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your show, you can buy 3 pieces, and they all connect together. 4 or
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5, we even had somebody buy a full circle, which is 8
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modular pieces, and so that was pretty cool. But you'll find the
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What kind of camera they're using with that one? Well, they're
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yeah. They were going back and forth with, like, adding
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pieces and taking pieces away. So, essentially, the
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8 piece circle served as a conference table for all of their, you
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know, management, and then they would take pieces away and then
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record content on them. So, you know, kinda multipurpose. But
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we've just recently added what we call a it's a powder coated
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MDF table. So it's, MDF, medium density
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fiber board, and so it's powder coated UV cured. So it's water
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resistant. It's a hardtop. It's it's heavy. It's nice, but
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it's a different material than real wood. And so we're able to offer that a
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lower price point, and you just make it a more affordable table for people
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who are into podcasting. And so same modular design, you can
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add the pieces, get as many as you need up to 8 to create the
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circle if you need that. And, you know, we've got a
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couple of other pieces that are like an oval table, a rectangular
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table. We've got something called the mini that's a little wedge that
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sits between 2 chairs for a soft seating setup. And so we've really tried
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to think about all of the use cases And,
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you know, starting with the RealWood modular
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design, we've just evolved from there again. So
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always trying to think outside of the box. What do people really need this
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for? And one of the interesting things is
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every time I set up a table for a customer, I do that sometimes.
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You know, if I get the opportunity to deliver to a
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customer, it's it's really great because then I have to
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put the thing together, and then I get real user experience.
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And then I make adjustments, and I'm like, that sucked. And
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so we're gonna fix that because, you know, if I know
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how to put these together and it sucked for me, so how do I make
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it easier for the next person after I go through that
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process? So what were some of the, what were some of the sucky
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things that were happening? Like what are some of the latest innovations that
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benefit podcasters putting this together and using it? Yeah. Let, well, let me tell
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you a story. 1 of them is we used to offer
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screws. So just a wood screw with a thread that you would have to use
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a power drill with a bit to drive the screw into the
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wood. So we would pilot the hole. And so it meant it's just
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screwing something into a piece of wood, but not everybody's done
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that. What people are used to is they call it RTA, ready to
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assemble furniture, where you have an Allen key or an Allen wrench, whatever you
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call it, with a bolt, and there's a thread, and you just you know, it's
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super easy. So there was one day where I was
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putting together one of these tables, and the
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screws that I was using, they weren't going all the way in, and the heads
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were stripping out. And I was like, well, that's not good. So then I switched
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screw sources. Essentially, I switched screws,
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and then we made the pilot holes bigger. And that helped,
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but then I switched where I was buying the screws,
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and we just got a bad batch. And, I was driving
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home from Podfest. Went to Podfest in, Orlando
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back in January, like, end of January. And I get
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a text message, and the guy's like, hey. I just got my table, and the
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heads are popping off of these screws. And I'm thinking to myself, man,
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that freaking sucks. You know, there's nothing I can do about it. It's just a
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bad screw, whatever. So I'm like, well, I can send you some new screws. Like,
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you know, if you go to the hardware store, here's the type of screw you
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should buy. I'll send you an Amazon gift card just to kinda help cover some
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of that cost, you know, like maybe ease some of that inconvenience.
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And he's like, okay. That sounds good. Thank you so much. Well, then I decide
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to look this guy up and on Facebook, he has 4,000,000 followers.
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Oh. And so I think to myself, the guy
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that has the issue putting these tables together has
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the most influence out of anybody who's bought one of our tables so far. And
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we had gotten a lot of ideas being at Podfest, and I was like, okay.
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What are this? What are my steps when I get back? So one of the
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things we did was we bought a CNC machine, and this is,
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an $8,000 expense. But what that allowed us to
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do is to route out the bottoms of the tables
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where the table leg plate will set into the table. So there's
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no question where it goes, and then the holes lined up to thread
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metal threaded inserts, and now we offer bolts and Allen keys. So it's, like,
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super easy to just line the pieces up and drop
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the bolts in and then, tighten them with an Allen key. So
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we solved that problem. It was a big expense,
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but, you know, it peace of mind for me is worth the
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money so that I don't have customers who are running into issues, you
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know? So right. You want, you want the experience of somebody gets
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this table, puts it together quickly, starts using it.
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People watch it and say, man, I love your setup. And when they ask you,
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what is it that you want that person to say with a big smile on
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their face? Oh, it's a podcast table. It was easy to set up. It
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looks great. It works great. Right? You don't want any way to be like, it's
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cool, but right. Like, you don't want that. So
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I I appreciate the thoughtfulness that goes into it and kinda, you know, making
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sure it's as easy as possible. So some of the other features for folks who
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haven't seen a podcast table, and obviously, we'll link to the website so you could
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check it out. But you've got holes drilled in to easily
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insert microphone stands. You've got holes drilled
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in there to easily run your cables through the table. Right? Good cable
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management. You have the option of putting in, you know,
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grommets for power. You've got underneath, you've
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got all these tools in, in there for cable management. Right? So cables aren't just
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hanging down, ways to cover it. What else am I missing? What are some of
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the other accessories or or features of the table that podcasters will
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get to, enjoy if they check out your tables? Yeah. I think you nailed it.
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And we really do pride ourselves on
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the the design and the way of cable management and
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keeping the tops clean. And so we've got grommets in in
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4 different places, and so people can mount their arms
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right next to those grommets and run the cables down. And so as you go
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through the bottom of the table with your XLR or power cable, whatever it is,
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now there's clips where you can you clip everything up to the
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bottom of the table, and then we offer the tables with or without
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panels. And that's just a a word we chose that is
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essentially like a lip or an edge around the the front and the
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sides of the table, and that's to help hide some of
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that cable craziness that's going on under there. But then also,
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you know, I actually have a lot of people ask about the panels and if
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they can get them longer because they wanna hide legs and knees and that kind
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of stuff. And so, you know, all all the,
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legs have leveling feet, and so you can level out the table.
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There's latches that connect the tables at the seams. So once you put them
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together, you latch them together, and you can kinda shift the table
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as one piece, and something we've started offering
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recently. And I you know, I'm not sponsored
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by anybody yet. I'm ready. So if they're listening, let's go.
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But, you know, the Elgato low profile boom arms, we love
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those. We think they look great with our table. They're
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highly functional. They've got cable management built into them. I mean, that's what I'm
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on right now is with our setup in our studio. We have the
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Elgato low profile arms, but what we've done is we're able to
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modify our tables by simply putting a quarter inch hole through
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the through the table. And then we run a quarter inch bolt
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up through the table, and we can mount the base of the Elgato arm
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without the clamp, essentially flush mounting the arm onto
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the table. So it just looks clean. It looks custom.
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You know, and I think that's a big big deal too. It's like we do
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sell a design, but you can add some of these little features
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that really make the table look different than maybe what other people are
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doing with their tables. So we're offering that. We've done custom
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holes for the Rode PSA 1 mics, and
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recently we've been doing custom holes for the bushing for
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the OC white boom arms, which are getting really popular and are really expensive.
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Yeah. So What, what are there
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any other customizations like something, you know, somebody
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says like, listen, you have great options. It's cool, but I really need this. Is
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there like a really specific customization that you've
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done that, is worth sharing? Yeah, for
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sure. You know, it's it's gotten a little more difficult
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lately with order volume to to really put
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focus on customization, but I do it anyway
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because, you know, I want as many of our tables
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out there as we can possibly get. Right? So if someone says,
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hey. We like the table. We think 36 inches on the long side. It's
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just a little too short. You know? I did have
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a a phone call from somebody at the Dallas Stars, and they're like, hey. We
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like your tables, and, but we're gonna be interviewing hockey
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players. So can you make the tables bigger? Can you make them
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taller? We're like, absolutely. We can. So, you know, we
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have 28 inch tall legs, which are just a standard table height. So
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if you go to a restaurant, you sit at an office desk, you're looking at
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28 inches. But some people ask for 30 because it went a little more room.
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Some people ask for counter height. Some people ask for bar height. So there's
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been some customizations to make the tables taller
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and then again, like wider. So instead of it
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being a 36 inch wide edge, we go to 48. We add a
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foot. But with that, you know, you increase the footprint of the table. So
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I always tell people we'll draw what that's gonna look like and then
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give you the dimensions, and you can see if that's actually gonna fit in your
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studio because, you know, we've had people you know, they ask all
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the time whether dimensions, and we tell them and, like, oh, that's too big. And
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so just a a word to the wise if somebody is
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considering buying one of our tables, and the 4 piece is, like,
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the most popular setup, you wanna be in a
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room that's at least 12 feet by 12 feet. Anything else, you're
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there's not enough room to move around or mount a camera and get a wide
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shot and that kind of stuff. So there's different things like that too that go
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into, you know, thinking about where these tables are gonna live.
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Great. Good to know. And so once again, you can learn more about this at
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podcast tables dot shop. We were chatting with Jason
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Villanueva. He is the owner of Podcast Tables. Jason,
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before we let you go, we always like to ask everybody a few questions about
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the podcasting space. And so, you know, let's let's get your take on what's
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happening right now. Is there something in the podcasting world,
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whether it's from the creator side or from the listener side that you
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would like to see, you know, some massive improvement on?
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Massive improvement. Or small improvement. Just something that you
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think would make podcasting better for everybody in
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the, you know, creator and or listening experience.
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What's gonna make it better? You know, I I just
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think edge education's gonna gonna going to go a long way
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for people. And so if there's
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a way that podcasting or
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content creation can be taught on a very elementary
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level to make it understandable for for the
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masses because, essentially, it's being mass adopted right now. And so
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you get people who are like, oh, we're gonna do that, and kudos
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to the DIY person, you know, the person then go and learn on YouTube and
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all that stuff. But I just
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think, you know, people don't really know what they're getting into
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until they start. And so, yeah, I
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you know, where are the where is the
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where are the big influencers that are really trying to teach things on
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an elementary level to the masses? That's I mean, that's the best thing I
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can think of right now. Alright. So better education or at least more
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well, well known easy to find better education. There's a lot of folks who are
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claiming to teach at a podcast, but, you know, you want us to come from
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reliable sources and and not just someone who's trying to to to
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get paid. And I would say even so, like, not a not
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even a philosophical or marketing philosophy
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approach to podcasting, but truly practical. Like, hey. This is an
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XLR cable. You've probably never heard of it, but this is what it's called. What
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does XLR stand for? I don't actually know, but it plugs into the
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but it plugs into these 3 holes like this. And so now you have a
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mic. This is how you plug in a mic. Right? Like, as
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elementary as you can get, like, teaching a 5 year old how to plug in
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a mic. You know? That is a, a a good question.
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And I'm gonna I would take a stab at it and guess what it
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is, but I don't wanna get, feedback from people telling me I'm wrong right
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now. So I will I will avoid going there. Speaking
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of, so what about technology? We always like to see, is there a piece
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of tech? Right? Is there a microphone, a mix, or something that either
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is out there that you wanna buy or something that hasn't been made yet that
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you think would, that's on your wish list for podcasting.
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Yeah. And maybe maybe on the wish list
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of a lot of podcasters who wanna get started right away and don't
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wanna spend a lot of money on technology as they wanna like, hey,
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how do I use my phone? Well, you know, I don't I
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haven't found a really easy,
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like, quick setup for a mobile phone
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podcast scenario. Like, how do you plug in a USB
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mic, or how do you run your audio into your
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phone to record into your phone? And so
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I know that it and I think it's crazy because now you've
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got lightning port, now you've got USB c, so things keep changing.
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So if there was some sort of and maybe it exists. I don't know about
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it. Maybe you can teach me, but, like, how do I get a mic plugged
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into this guy right here and, like, I'm ready to go? And I
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think people are looking for that scenario, and I'm like, well, you
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can try this dongle, and they're like, well, can I get it on Amazon? I'm
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like, not really because not all third party dongles work
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with iPhones. It'll tell you that the accessories you know, you can try
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it, but it's not guaranteed. But then buy this from
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Apple, but then you're gonna need another connector, and so I
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don't know how to do it. That's fair. There are some decent
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mobile easy solutions. IRig, I think makes a couple of decent
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lab microphones that you can use in that situation. I mean, I used to
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be able to plug in my Samsung Q2U or HR
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2,100. I can't remember which one it was at the time into my phone. I'm
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not even sure if those will take with a lot of, phones
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and and platforms you wanna record through, but,
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that's that's a good thought. Right? Just trying to make the whole mobile
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phone studio experience better. So, I like
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that challenge accepted. And finally, is there a
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podcast out there that you listen to that,
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right, you might be doing something else. You might be listening to something else, but
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when that podcast hits, you're gonna stop what you're doing and check it out. Right.
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What's your, like, go to, you know, listening right now?
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Oh, I've got it 100%. So I I used to
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listen to podcasts religiously, like, all the time while I drove, while I
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worked, and everything. And, I don't know if my attention span has changed
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or what, but I used to really enjoy
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business style podcast and marketing podcast and, you
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know, conversational style podcast, all that stuff. But there's one that's out right
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now that's a fictional podcast. It's called The Program. And I don't know if you've
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ever heard of this, but it's I I might nerd out on this for a
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second, but Take your time. It's a thanks. It's
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a post it it's
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presented as a postapocalyptic utopian
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era, except it's
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as you listen to it, you realize how much of a dystopia it is.
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But in their utopia, they look back on our era
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and call us a dystopia. So it's really interesting and
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it's, very it it's very
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tech driven. So the premise is there was this app or
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this program that was introduced into society. And as
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that program began being updated over time,
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it actually was implemented as the rule of law
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over all of the land, and so there's an entity
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or entities behind the updates. And every time there's
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a new update, everything in society changes, and it's supposed to be
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driving them more and more into a a Utopian era. So
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it's really great. It's, you know, it's voice acting, so it's
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it's a story, but then there's people who are acting, and it's well
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produced. And, you know, I think it's
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listener funded, so they don't have episodes all the
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time, but, you know, I came across the
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podcast and I binged it until there were no more episodes.
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And now I've been waiting 3 months at a time for the last year for
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new episodes to drop because, you know, they're they're
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they write them and then they get them produced, and it takes a lot of
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money and a lot of time. So if that pops up and it says new
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episode program, I'm listening right away. Alright. So
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program audio series.com, you know,
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according to Jason, don't just check it out, but support it as well. So you
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can get more great content and, and, and, you know, help them
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to put out a show a little bit more often for, for Jason's
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sake. We have been chatting with Jason via Nueva. He is the owner of podcast
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tables. You can find them at podcast tables.shop. And of course we'll have a link
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to it here in the show notes and try and throw up a couple of
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pictures. And before I let you go, I should specify, we have purchased and used
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podcast tables when we've done studio setups.
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They are fantastic. They are sturdy. They are heavy. I
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don't say that as a, as a bad thing. Just telling you, like, they are
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really heavy duty. They are gonna last you a long time. You don't have to
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worry. Like Jason said earlier, it's not Ikea furniture. They can sit on an accidentally
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break. You know, so they're gonna do a really nice job. So, keep
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an eye on their website, see what they are offering, see all the changes and
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modifications and new varieties that they're making. And, if you're looking to create
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a nice studio video in particular, I would encourage you to go check out
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podcast tables dot shop. Jason, keep up the great work, and thanks
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for joining us. Man, thank you so much. I appreciate you inviting me
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on and taking the time to hear more about what I do.
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Jason Villanueva
Owner
Jason Villanueva is the Owner at Podcast Tables Shop and Co-Owner along with his wife Kimberly Villanueva at Podcast Solutions in Wichita, Kansas. Jason grew up in Houston, Texas but moved to Wichita in 2010 when a new and exciting career opportunity came his way. He started his career in graphic design, but evolved in his skill sets as his career demanded new ways of marketing and producing content.
Podcast Tables Shop was born out of needing a functional yet beautiful podcast table for his studio where he recorded a weekly show for 3 years. The solution to the problem he faced is now offered to all who may face the same issue. Jason's tables are delivered all over the United States and into Canada. He's always down for new connections and helping people in areas of business, marketing, content creation, and of course podcast tables.
Jason is a self-proclaimed foodie, loves a good cup of coffee, a cold beer, and looks to make memorable experiences with friends and family.